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The Red Sox need an ace. The Nationals are trying to trade theirs. That doesn't make this as simple as it should be.


The Nationals are dangling their ace and soon-to-be free agent Jordan Zimmermann, and one of the teams he's been dangled in front of is the Red Sox. It's a fit that, on the surface, makes sense for both sides: the Sox have lots of young talent the Nationals would like to have for themselves, and the Red Sox have a need for an ace. What's unclear, though, is what the Nationals would want in return for Zimmermann on a more specific level: what would the Red Sox actually need to give up in order to pry one year of an ace from the Nats?


The answer is not a simple one, and, in fact, there might not be a satisfying answer at all. Let's look at what we do know about the Nationals and Zimmermann so far to see what we can learn, though. He would like to have an extension in place by Opening Day, or not at all. He's set to make $16.5 million in 2015, and could easily pull in at least, let's say, $22 million per year on a six-year deal if he were a free agent right now, if not $20-plus million more than that. That means the Nationals have to give Zimmermann a Lester-esque deal if they want to seal the deal and keep him around, and given that they're discussing trading him to one of a few teams, they obviously aren't entirely committed to that plan. We only have one trade proposal from the Nats' side to go on, and it's complicated a bit because it also involved the final year of Ian Desmond's deal: the Nationals offered the Mariners a Zimmermann/Desmond package in exchange for Taijuan Walker and Brad Miller.


In Boston's favor we have Zimmermann's $16.5 million salary and the public knowledge that the Nationals are not convinced he's sticking beyond 2015. Against Boston, though, and anyone trying to get Zimmermann, is that the Nationals are still great and are set up to compete easily in 201. Given that, holding on to Zimmermann's final year is also in their interests: if they only get a compensation pick for him, but also make it deep into October or win a World Series, no one is going to be upset when he walks this time next year. Well, no one rational


Figuring out just what the Nationals want for a return is tough, thanks to two things: Desmond's presence in the declined offer to the Mariners, and the fact that it represents what the Nats want, not necessarily what they would accept. The Nationals shot high, aiming for a former top-10 prospect who should be a rotation mainstay if he stays healthy, one who can be plugged into Zimmermann's vacated spot immediately. The Sox don't have a Walker, but if they remove Desmond from the equation and add another prospect, maybe they don't have to.


Taijuan Photo credit: Kelley L Cox-USA TODAY Sports


That's a significant maybe, however, as Boston just doesn't have someone in their farm system who is ready for a rotation spot. Rubby De La Rosa was the only one, and he's been dealt for three years of Wade Miley. That's not to say De La Rosa would have been the key, or the Sox should have explored a Zimmermann trade further first, because neither of those statements is likely true. The Sox could use Miley and Zimmermann, and they used their chip on the one who is still under team control for three years.


What the Sox do have left from that vein is Anthony Ranaudo, Brandon Workman, Edwin Escobar, and if it came to it, Joe Kelly. None of those pieces are a viable replacement for Walker on a talent level, but if the Nationals simply want someone who can fill Zimmermann's spot, with the real value of the deal coming from another place, then one of those names could be of interest. Ranaudo and Workman are probably too likely to be relievers to interest the Nationals, at least as the piece. Escobar's future is also uncertain, but he's probably a better bet to start than those two. Kelly isn't a prospect and has the least amount of service time left, but he would also be the best bet of the bunch to step in and successfully start for the Nationals from Opening Day onward.


None of those pitchers would be enough on their own, and Kelly might be the only one who even interests the Nationals since he's at least a starter. This is where the Sox could dip into their considerable prospect depth to see if there is a match. Would shortstop Deven Marrero, whose ETA is likely late-2015 or 2016, make sense given Desmond's potential departure? Would the Sox need to move a position player far from the majors, someone like Manuel Margot? Would it take Kelly, Marrero, and someone intriguing like Sean Coyle to get it done? Or would the Nationals insist on receiving someone like Henry Owens along with Kelly, even though they are just giving up the one season of Zimmermann? Remember: that one season could be the only one this Nationals team needs to win their first-ever World Series, just like Zimmermann could be the final piece for the Red Sox in their own quest for one. Both teams have every reason to make a deal happen, but also every reason not to force one.


This is why asking what a Jordan Zimmermann trade would cost Boston produces an unsatisfactory answer. Nationals' general manager Mike Rizzo has made some fantastic trades over the years, and is known to ask for a serious return in exchange for his players. The Nationals might lower their demands because they know Zimmermann is gone in a year, but they also know how significant a 2015 season with him could be, so they don't actually have a reason to do so. The Red Sox don't want to give up their major prospects for five years of Cole Hamels, so giving up a major piece for a rental -- even one as talented as Zimmermann -- is unlikely. There is some middle ground here, where the Red Sox hand over Joe Kelly, Deven Marrero, and whichever legitimate low-level talent the Nationals want to be in their organization, but it seems, at this time, to be an unlikely conclusion to their discussions.






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Astros rumor involving Cole Hamels, the additions of Luke Gregerson and Pat Neshek to the bullpen, possibilities for the rest of the offseason including Jed Lowrie and Jose Veras and the Rule 5 draft.


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TCBP AB 141: 2014 Winter Meetings roundup


In this episode David Coleman and myself discuss:



  • Astros as an aggressive darkhorse for the services of Phillies left-handed pitcher Cole Hamels

  • The signings of relievers Luke Gregerson and Pat Neshek and what this means for the bullpen

  • The possibility of resigning infielder Jed Lowrie and reliever Jose Veras

  • The Rule 5 draft and the three players selected by other teams: Delino DeShields, David Rollins and Jandel Gustave.




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Another day, another $155-million-dollar contract, another half dozen Jon Lester links.


Why Dustin Pedroia is just the saddest over Jon Lester's departure. (Joe McDonald; ESPN Boston)


The things David Ortiz said to Jon Lester after he left. (Sam Galanis; NESN)



When Jon Lester decided he could leave Boston. (Tim Britton; Providence Journal)


What Jon Lester's decision to leave Boston did to the Red Sox rotation. (Alex Speier; WEEI)


A podcast review of all the changes the team has made over the last week from the folks over at Sox Prospects. (Sox Prospects)


And, finally, why it's time to move on from Jon Lester. (Nick Cafardo; Boston Globe)


Wait! One more thing! The realest tragedy of the entire offseason: there will be only one Lamborghini Aventador with a flaming tailpipe on the team this year. (Nick O'Malley; MassLive)






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Chase Headley discusses his decision to return to NY and how he expects to get along with A-Rod; Will Headley block Refsnyder?; Predicting the 2015 lineup.


ESPN New York | Wallace Matthews: Newly-signed third baseman Chase Headley discusses his decision to return to New York and how he expects to get along with Alex Rodriguez.


LoHud Yankees Blog | Chad Jennings: Does the Headley signing block Rob Refsnyder from moving up?


NJ.com | Brendan Kuty: Predicting what the 2015 lineup will look like now that Headley will be a part of it.


New York Post | Ken Davidoff: Looking at the Yankees' free agency moves since Brian Cashman took over control of baseball operations in 2005.


LoHud Yankees Blog | Chad Jennings: The Yankees signed three minor leaguers to deals on Monday, including Jose Campos, Cole Figueroa and Juan Graterol.







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Nothing happened in Birdland yesterday. Nothing will likely happen today. But we can still while away workday with speculation!


Steve Melewski: Asking O's fans, "How did it all start for you?"

Sitting in my parent's kitchen, pouring over newspaper boxscores while listening to Chuck Thompson on AM radio.


To fill right field, O's eye free agency or in-house move | orioles.com

well, that's 2 of the 3 possible ways to fill a positional vacancy. Might as well have just added 'trade' to the headline to cover all the possibilities.


Alvarez creating interest in Orioles organization | Comcast SportsNet Baltimore

Seems as if someone in the front office is trying to temper trade/free agent demands by putting Alvarez's name out there as a potential OF solution for the O's.


Exploring Justin Upton’s Trade Value | FanGraphs Baseball


In which it is suggested that Atlanta fans should lower their expectations


Ken Rosenthal: Even if the San Diego Padres add Justin Upton to Matt Kemp in their outfield, they will need more pieces than those two to make a serious run at the playoffs in the NL West | FOX Sports

The Bowtie'd One reports the O's as one team interested in Padres OFer Seth Smith.


Baseball Prospectus | Prospectus Feature: The Surprising Math Teams Use to Value a Compensation Pick


Warning: #GoryMath layeth beyond yon link


Minor League Baseball to Seek Congressional Protection from the Minimum Wage | FanGraphs Baseball


In non-O's related links, I found this piece to be interesting legal development for MLB


Happy 50th birthday, Billy (nickname redacted) Ripken! Mike Flanagan would have turned 63 today. Big day for O's shortstop signings. On this date in 2002 the O's signed Deivi Cruz. And there was -much- no rejoicing. In 2003, Petey shelled out the dough, $72m over 6 years, for Miguel Tejada. In 2008, Ceaser 'Maximum' Izturis was brought in. In '09 the O's signed Mike Gonzalez and Garrett Atkins. The horror...the horror...






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Revamped roster has rejuvenated the White Sox broadcaster with the future of the booth up in the air


White Sox fans aren't the only ones thrilled by Rick Hahn's wheeling and dealing. Hawk Harrelson is also on board, so much so that he's discarded the idea of a reduced broadcast schedule.



"I looked at the schedule 15, 20, 30 times," Harrelson said Monday. "I narrowed it down to about 120 games but now that’s out the window."


While Harrelson, 73, was finishing up his 30th season in the Sox booth in 2014, he began to consider cutting some road games from his schedule, citing missed family time, especially with his grandchildren. It’s a step broadcasters often make at the end of their careers.


"I was thinking about cutting my season short this year and now with all that’s going on I don’t think I’m going to do it," Harrelson said. "It’s going to be a great year, a fun year to watch and when it gets like that I don’t care if you do 162 or 192. It’s fun to watch."



This isn't good news for those who were hoping for a regular third wheel, an insurgent who could nudge the broadcast forward without knocking down the established hierarchy that so many people -- from Jerry Reinsdorf down to a sizable chunk of the fan base -- prefer.


But it seems like the broadcast could be at a crossroads regardless.


For one, Steve Stone is in the final year of his contract. He publicly flirted with stepping out toward the end of the 2012 season before deciding to honor the rest of his contract, and it doesn't seem like his relationship with Harrelson has improved all that much. The loyalty Reinsdorf engenders is one reason Stone would return, but I can't think of another, unless he really likes working in Chicago.


Moreover, this season should be a litmus test for what Harrelson has become. Two years of losing baseball has taken a toll on the television product, because it's quite apparent that the broadcast quality hinges on how interesting the Sox are on a given day.


Harrelson doesn't prepare enough to fill airtime in the event of bad baseball. If the action isn't worth talking about, he either resorts to well-worn theses (the biggest development in the last 50 years is that baseball is a battle of the bullpens...), or he doesn't talk at all.


It's clear that his moods and tastes decide what lives or dies. Stone enjoys talking about leaguewide happenings and can have conversations with anybody who cares, but Harrelson doesn't. And remember when Stone said the broadcasts were going to delve into sabermetrics? I think they mentioned Robinson Cano's WAR once. Outside of that, they only stuck to a couple items that confirmed Harrelson's beliefs (Alexei Ramirez's out of zone plays was one).


As a result, it's been two years of laborious listening, independent of the score. We're not the ones screwing up, but we're the ones getting the same old lectures, and that isn't fair.


But Harrelson is still a lot of fun when the game compels him to deliver spontaneous, live observations, and so the hope is that this rapid-fire sequence of moves provides him enough talent to keep his interest. If this season wears him out, then there's nowhere the broadcast can go but down.






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The Lunar Vapor needs an Angels fan's artistic touch...


Angels All Star Outfielder Mike Trout took to Twitter on Monday night looking for an artist.


A what? As every Halo Fan knows, Trout is heir to the vaunted Nike Lunar Vapor shoe, the first cleat that MLB has designed specifically for a baseball player since the Portland, Oregon-based shoe company made one for Ken Griffey Jr. almost twenty years ago. It seems that the Nike art department has exhausted the possibilities for the Lunar Vapor.


His missive online Monday was straightforward:




Not a bad deal - and the legion of Trout fans who also know a few commands of photoshop took baseball's best all-around player at his word and got to work...




This "road gray" above was retweeted by Mike


Spots seem to be "in" this season, as another artful fan added them to what looks to be more of a "home" cleat...




Below is a minimalist with a conceptual bent, entitling his footwear "Red October"...




Wait, it is back to spots again, with what the designer calls a throwback for 4th of July (although it does not look particularly patriotic to this critic's eyes)...




And finally, what would be a Mike Trout article without a nod to the city where young Superman's spaceship landed in the early 1990s, Millville New Jersey...




While there are no rules posted about this contest, it appears that there is still time for you to get to the painting studio and create your own masterpiece...






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